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Matt K

I have to emphatically agree on your point about the accessibility of sociology.

Our discipline is somewhat of a torn one. There's the nagging desire to prove that we're the "equal" of natural scientists, and some try to achieve this through positivism and jargon, like you said.

Then we have people pulling in the opposite direction, saying, "How can you be objective? Your claims to objectivity just hide your own motivations and prejudices, whatever they are!" I tend to side more with this group, but the problem is that the writing style that lends itself to this kind of sociology can be pretty hard to understand too. Power is granted to those who know the lingo.

Meanwhile, economists are edging ever closer! I joke, but if you look at the number of popular economics books released in the last few years and the number of popular sociology books...well, maybe I just haven't seen any of the latter and that's my own failure to sample.

I just think we need to work harder to make what we're doing worthwhile. We're not natural scientists, and yes, some research will have to be targeted towards academics, but we need to get out there to the people, like other social sciences have done.

rachel

In this event, I have a question. Can good journalism, then, be taken as fair ground for experience in sociological fieldwork?

Monte Bute

Karen,
Comparing and contrasting sociology and journalism is useful not only for students but for most sociologists as well. I appreciate your plug for my review in Contexts: "Writing to be Read." I do find it interesting that you would describe the review as "provocative." In fact, it is little more than the common sense practiced by the best prose stylists for centuries. Your adjective may indicate how far most sociologists really are from writing well.

I am working on an article that attempts to highlight exactly what sociologists can learn from journalists. Public journalists in particular seem to have found some reasonable, working solutions to many of the either-ors that our discipline seems unable to transcend.
Again, an excellent and thoughtful post.
Best,
Monte

Sonja

Excellent post! I am a new academic in the social sciences (Ph.D. student, to be exact) and having been a journalist a while back, I wanted to know what the difference was between, say, ethnography and good, systematic journalism. You've done a great job of picking apart some key differences.

However, let me add one more critical element (as I see it) that differentiates journalism from social science research: theory. Without theory, academic research is rather dry indeed and does not contribute meaningfully to the ongoing conversation among fellow researchers. Journalism, on the other hand, does not require theory.

An illuminating read, Karen. Thank you!

MK

I, too, am a new PhD student in sociology who used to work as a journalist for a number of years. Another difference between journalism and sociology, in my view, is that in journalism, your work is a result of team effort -- fellow reporters, managing editor, copy editor, assignment editor, section editor, producer, photographer, videographer, video editor and others all contribute, in one way or another, to your stories -- whereas in an academic research, it seems to me that you (and sometimes your "co-investigators") are on your own most of the time and do not get much input and suggestions from somebody else along the way.

Another difference I find is that journalists write "stories" whereas academics write research results. For example, in journalism, anonymous sources are not acceptable in general. This is very much true when you're writing in-depth feature stories on people (you might say 'ethnographic' stories). You must clearly identify the "people" in your stories with real names, ages, occupations and so forth, which in turn gives those people faces and personalities that you can explore in your narratives.

Many ethnographic research papers I read gave their "subjects" and "informants" fake identities in the name of research ethics, which then made the papers, in my view, hard to read and understand (I can picture John's face in my mind but not informant A's face).

The anonymity also made me wonder how true to the reality the researchers' observations and accounts are, and there is no way for me to go back to the original sources to find out (but in journalism, your competitors could (and would) immediately go to your sources if anything is suspicious).

I know enough about journalism (I have a master's degree in journalism as well) but I am new to sociology and ethnography, so I may be totally off the mark, though. My apologies if that is the case.

Mack George

I'd never associate journalism and sociology unless I had read this blog. They both operate in somewhat of the same way, operation by a code of ethics so as not to trespass on the rules of society. Reporters can't just report lies to their enormous audience, and sociological experiments cannot trespass on the rights of its subjects.

Perry

sociology gives a basis of study for a better understanding in a way for the outer-thinker while journalism can provide a awareness for the everyday reader or for a wide range of topics built into one topic.

Diamond

In this blog i learned that the difference between journalism and Sociology is that jounalism focus more on tmew and people (worldly)and sociology is theory, data and people. The way you could use both journalism and sociology in they both involve people.

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