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pnc

It's funny that you assume they are telling the truth and there really is a video. I once told my students, jokingly, that we had video cameras monitoring them during the exam - and I was shocked to see that many of them seemed to believe me. It could have just been a creative phone rep pacifying you with a little fiction...

eric

this has happened in my school, when i was a sophomore in high school, the school installed 180 new cameras and every hallway and every little corner was now covered. i can understand that its a security helper but having every corner on tape is a little over kill wouldn’t just the entrances and major rooms like the cafe do it?

ostrix

This is an ambiguous issue... Said cameras are indeed helpful in unraveling thefts, losses and some mystical incidents like the one described here. Usually, I have no problem being taped in a store or a public place, once a clear warning sign is out there to notify me. Nobody watches these tapes anyway, and even if they do, it doesn't seem to raise my coefficient of disturbance :)
By the way, regarding the comment by pnc, it's funny but true - I'm also this kind of "naive believer", tend to take everybody's word for everything automatically, and later proof check it :)

Chris

The rep must have been lying, it's a violation of federal wiretapping laws to capture -audio-. A restaurant chain got in big trouble a few years ago because its security system recorded both video and audio.

Could they claim that the customer was given sufficient notice for them to capture audio? I don't know about that - I remember visiting a car lot with a friend about a decade ago and virtually every vertical surface had a prominent sign announcing that people had no expectation of privacy. (I wonder if that applied to the bathrooms as well.) Even at that I don't know if it's sufficient to past the federal law since vision-impaired or illiterate family members and friends may be accompanying potential buyers. Nobody asked us to sign waivers as we drove onto the lot.

ABBEYPANKOFF@YAHOO.COM

I have experienced camera invade myself, I once went on a cruise with my family and my sister and I shared a room on the ship and there was a sign that said do not flush tampons down the toilet she didn’t see it and soon as she was about to flush it a ride light went off and a man on a intercom said do not flush that then we asked maintenance how they knew and it said threes surveillance in every room when you sign papers threes something that says something about that in fine print.

Abbey Pankoff

Topic I read and researched: Has technology made privacy obsolete?
In my opinion it has because there really going over board with how much cameras they have every where this scary to think it could be in your home without you knowing because someone you trust dearly could be a peeping tom, or just in general like at school like 89 cameras is not really needed they need to watch and observe who they let buy cameras or something.

christopher

big whoop, get over it

christopher

for one it may prevent climbing crime rates :for example, if some one robed a bank an automanted survellience system could alert city authorities.

Janis Prince Inniss

I don't know how the telephone representative would know what she did without actually watching/listening to a video. She was able to repeat exactly what the cashier said to me - information that I did not volunteer. (Even without audio and with the lip-reading, there would have to be a video to review.) I concede that reviewing the store copy of my receipt would tell the rep what items I purchased though.

Lei He

The purpose of installing video camera in public places is to ensure public safety. Being taped in a public place should be ok as long as there is a clear warning sign there and the rules of viewing the tape is regulated(for example: tapes can only be seen under certain circumstance).

John Wilson

It seems to me that the problem is that these cameras are being promoted under all of their positive aspects. The potential for it being abused or mishandled is huge.

It seems to me that there was a problem with a California traffic surveillance camera and a car running a red light. The city sent the ticket, the still frame photo of the infraction, and the driver of the car to the owners house. The owners wife opened the letter. The woman driving the car was not the wife. The wife filed for a divorce and took him to the cleaners. If I recall correctly, he sued the city for damages and won.

It also seems to me that a certain administration pushed really hard, really fast for a certain Act regarding patriotism. That administration, when questioned about the gaps in the Act related to privacy, said that certainly no one would ever abuse it in those ways. Shortly thereafter, the Act went under heavy revision based on violations of privacy.

There are plenty of pros vs. cons on this. It just seems that we are increasingly driven to give up our rights based on fear. Fear based decisions are sometimes not the best option.

William Harris

There are good and bad sides to this problem. Sure Security Cameras throughout the city would decrease crime, but isn't it a violation of our personal privacy? I think its fine for businesses to have security cameras in their store. Its a business and they should be trying to prevent and protect what they sell. In public though I don't think its right to watch the publics every movement even if its for good intentions.

Alyssa Ledesma

I completely understand the use of cameras in public for surveillance, and also understand the usage of that footage for other means as well. The purpose of video cameras in stores are not to invade your privacy, but for security purposes. And since the footage is already available it is my opinion that if the tape can be used to relieve controversy (as in the situation you stated) then it should be used.

Mitzy

I just want to know if you EVER found that shirt?

Ruby

Honestly, concern over this kind of thing springs from the narcissistic American view that people actually care about what you are doing at every moment of the day--the same reason we feel the need to Tweet about when we are brushing our teeth and going to bed. No one has time to sit down and carefully scrutinize the daily purchases of ordinary citizens, unless it becomes necessary, such as in the shirt incident mentioned at the beginning.

Unless you have things to hide, increased surveillance is in your favor. When your grandmother with Alzheimer's disappears, wouldn't you like to know where to go find her? Or when you realize that the store you manage is losing money like a bad poker player, won't you wish you'd had a camera keeping an eye on your employees?

Who cares if the camera man is checking you out? Take it as a compliment and go on your merry way. The only people who need to be concerned here are minorities who are in danger of being falsely targeted or accused by those who jump to hasty conclusions.

Perry

Surveillance is a part of human culture now , it how been given the go-ahead my gov't , so we have lost some rights for the sake of a few goods that may come out of it.

Fernando Severns

Good job on going back to the store, Janice! I would like to congratulate this store for having a mind to install surveillance cameras to catch shoplifters. What store was that?

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