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Shae

The idea of the dirty joke reminds me of this:

My college sociology prof was once explaining that our unwritten rules are more important than our written rules. As proof, he pointed to a sign that said "no food or drink" and then pointed to all the people eating and drinking in class. Then, as he continued to belabor his point, he pulled out a cigarette, lit it up, started smoking, and just kept casually talking. The shock and awe was priceless, and of course he made his point.

Rachel Paran

Reading this article made me realize how much I consider the ways that people react to what I do and say based on social norms. It is interesting that young women who give birth before they marry or people who are in interracial relationships usually are cautious about what other people think of them. It would be nice if certain things in our society were accepted so that they weren't under the category of "social deviance."

Samantha

I am a senior in high school, and I plan to get married next October. Many people have given me many different reactions. Some say it's stupid, others are happy. Some just give me "the look" and shake their heads. After reading this article, it makes me realize that all people have a different idea of what is considered "social deviance" and as long as I am happy, along with my family, other people's idea of "social deviance" doesn't matter that much.

Brandi

I'm a 15 year old sophmore in high school, and I have a daughter, who is 7 months old. She is my life now. Everyone has their own opinions about it, some good, some bad. The usual. After I read this article, it made me think about norms, values, and social deviance. It made me think that it doesn't matter what other people say. I am who I am, and I will be happy with what I chose to do with my life. People can say and think what they want, because of course, I say and think things about other people. Other people's idea of " Social Deviance " doesn't matter. Just like Samantha said, :) This article made me realize a lot.

Sara

Reading this made me think a lot. If you think about it there really is not set deviant behavior in every society. Getting pregnant to one person may be the best thing ever, but to another may be the worst. It all depends on who the person or the society is. And like you said is it really deviant if people are getting enjoyment out of it? I mean who really says an action is deviant it depends ont he person and that persons reaction.

Lauren

I definitely agree with the earlier comments about not taking people's reactions too seriously. I think that what is considered deviant in our society is changing because people aren't tied to traditions like they used to be. Getting pregnant or married at a young age is beginning to lose the stigma of deviance as people become more independent and do what is right for them. The traditional family has lost value because people don't care what society thinks anymore and I think it's a good thing. People shouldn't have to worry about what other people think when something is right for them.

Kristyn L.

I think that society is changing and it's not like it used to be. We used to follow traditions and care about what people thought of us. Now it seems like we have gotten away from that. We don't seem to care what people think as long as we are doing the right thing for ourselves. We also don't seem to follow traditions as closely as we used to.

Jennifer K

I guess that the point here is that there is a difference in breaking a norm and deviance. Deviance is defined by the negative reactions people receive because they broke a highly valued norm. The orange wig reminds me of some of my fellow students in high school. These kids are non-conformists who are universally liked and considered cool. They play the ukulele, spice up their wardrobes with thrift store clothes, carry their Rubik’s cubes around, and join the bowling team. I used to be on a team with one of these individuals. She was unique and also one of the nicest people I have ever met. These people are another example of breaking social norms without being deviant. They rarely get much of a reaction any more, and when they do it is often positive.

Margarita Silva

After reading this blog about deviance I realized that Mr. Schoepflin makes a great point. Weather or not an act is considered deviant you have to see the reactions that follow it. Society as a whole comes up with norms and what is right and wrong, acceptable and unacceptable. It is a shame that for his expample about the pregnanat college student society viewed her pergnancy in a negative way. Then if you are a married 25 year old the news of pregnancy would be celebrated. It just shows where are values are and sometimes the situation has everything and reactions have everythihng to do with wheater or not we think an act is deviant.

Danielle

I agree that with out a negative reaction a behavior most not be considered deviant. I can't really think of a behavior that is deviant that gets a positive reaction. I also think that different people will have different reactions to things, one person might be offended by something, and another might think it was funny.

Chelsea Johnson

What about the deviant behavior that is ignored on purpose? One cannot not know whether or not this is intentional

Brianna Brentar

This gave me a good understanding about why people react to something outside the norm that they are use to.

Kesley

I think everyone just has different opinions on what is right and what is wrong. I mean who really cares if someone gets married at a young age it is not their right to judge others. Very good blog.
Kelsey

Carolina

How It can affect people? It depend the reactions that people can have sometimes because sometimes it can be positive or negative. Looking the example about the class professor I have sometime similar. I remembered my first semester in College when I had to take writing classes. I felt happy because I liked to write in English, but my big problem was that my grammar is bad. One day the professor gave us the first assignment. When I saw my essay, I found many errors, but the most terrible thing was when he used my own errors like an examples in class. Everyone was laughed. I felt very angry because they did not understand that English is not my first language. At the same time he gave us more examples about grammar mistakes in other classmates. Next, day I though that he was right because he showed something positive in my life and I understood the norm that I got was to pen more attention in my grammar and I understood my behavior because at ht beginning was negative, but after my action was positive.

Masiha Noori

I remember we first learned about breaking norms and deviances in chapter 3 of our sociology book by Richard T. Schaefer in sociology class. We learned that breaking the norm would result in sanctions, depending on the type of the norm broken. I really enjoyed reading this article since it opened up my mind about certain things and changed the way I think. After reading the “Deviance 101” blog entry by Todd Schoepflin, I realized the importance of focusing on the reaction rather than the action when breaking certain norms. The examples Schoepflin gave, such as with his student walking in with an orange wig in class and his pregnant student Irena, helped make me notice this, which I never thought of before. I believe that his examples reveal the significant role that reactions play when it comes to deviant behavior. For example, in my family intraracial marriage is very important and highly stressed, and marrying outside our race is HIGHLY discouraged; this is the norm for our family and most of America as well. Yet my older step-brother, who is white, married a person that is from another race, Black, and with this he received a lot of negative “reaction” from the family. I used to think that breaking a norm would be doing a certain action and getting sanctions from that. Yet here the action of marrying isn’t wrong, but marrying a person of another race was violating the norms. I personally saw this as wrong and thought marrying anyone should be ok. Now I learned to focus more on the reaction you get from breaking a norm, rather than the action itself when experiencing social deviances.

Tessa

C. I found this article to be very thought provoking and certainly got me thinking about deviance in our culture. At the end of the blog, Schoepflin asks the question [“can you think of any examples of positive reactions that is believed to be deviant... is there any deviant behavior that generates a positive reaction?] about deviant behaviors with positive reactions. I believe that in many cases, deviant behavior receives different reactions based on who is around them. For example, if a high school student snuck out of their house after curfew to meet up with some friends, this is seen as deviant behavior with negative reactions from parents. However, the high school student would receive positive reactions from their friends and peers, based on their perceived idea that sneaking out is “cool”.

Claire Delahorne

It's interesting that I never would have thought of reactions to behavior just as important to qualifying something as deviant as the behavior itself. It makes complete sense but it's not something that is thought of right away. I think the best example was that of the young woman being pregnant. It is true that the majority of pregnant are not looked upon as deviant, but that in certain situations people would perceive a pregnancy in a bad light.

Jessica L

I think it would be very interesting to take examples from each years of schooling. For example, something labeled deviant in elementary school, middle school, high school, undergraduate and graduate school. It would be interesting to see or survey people to get solid examples of deviant behavior and actually experiment by having people do them and then recording the audience’s reactions.

Liz

This post hit on some of the basic fundamentals of the relative nature of deviance. It is easy to forget how much of the idea of "deviance" is a social construct determined by a variety of factors that are constantly in flux. I feel as though the final question would be worthwhile to explore in another post. Also, it would be interesting to examine the value of deviance in a society of individuals, such as ours, since small acts of deviance are often the impetus for large-scale shifts in perceptions of normalcy.

McKenzie

You have a really great point about what may be seen by some as deviant, may not be that big of a deal to others. It also brings about what some people think is weird, others think of as "normal" behavior. Deviance really is a very relative state.

mel

Can someone help me with my wrk, its a sociology qestion that i dont have a clue about.

Discuss how far sociologists would agree that an act some people would see as deviant might not be seen as deviant by other people.

Thankss

rachel

This is very interesting. As far as social deviance goes, I know there are social norms that it is considered unusual not to follow. But it's hard not to wonder how far one would have to go in order to become "Socially deviant". If wearing an orange wig to class isn't, then I'm not sure what is. I think one of the biggest examples of this is girls who get pregnant in high school, this is becoming less and less unusual, social deviance changes over time.

Sameena

Societies and culture determine what is an appropriate behavior. Deviant in one society might be the norm in the other, as the author points out, the level of deviance is based on the reactions one might get negatively towards that act. Deviance can be taken as someone acting outside of the normal behavior pattern. We live in a society in NY where cultures and religion blend into a potpourri of things. There is no right or wrong easily. There was a Jewish parade last week in Manhattan and so many men were wearing their traditional caps and sporting a beard. Now this is fine in New York but the same parade in a Christian or Islamic centric country would illicit strange reactions. Also to consider is this, is a deviant behavior really considered deviant when it is done by a huge amount of people. In part this slowly becomes the norm.

As a Muslim growing up in India, we never used to wear Hijabs to cover our heads, it was only done by elderly but not the young. If a young girl does it, it creates a positive deviant behavior with the elders but at that time incited and went against what all the other young girls did not do. The girl would be looked at negatively by her friends and questioned by others as to why she was doing it. She was being a deviant in a good way for a group of people and deviant and negative to another.

Nisha

I found this article on deviance to be very interesting. Often, deviance is based purely on negative reactions to the action. As the author points out, actions that may be considered deviant in one culture could be social norms in another. By reading this article, I was able to understand that deviance is more a matter of social definition and opinion than anything else. For this reason, it can vary between groups, societies and cultures. Violating social norms will usually classify a person as a deviant, but social norms may differ between cultures. Thus, it is impossible to permanently label someone as a deviant.

Abby

This article was one of the more interesting I have read. Deviance seems to be very relative and fluctuates person to person, as well as culture to culture. For example, in many European countries it is considered normal to kiss someone when you meet them, even if you do not know them well. If this occured here in America, many people would think of it as quite strange, and it would be considered deviant behavior.

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